Modern Marketing + Measurement

A Brand Renaissance, Fueled by Better Use of Data

Welcome back to Modern Marketing and Measurement. On this episode I sit down with Jessica Shapiro, CMO at LiveRamp, to talk about what she coins a Brand Renaissance. We cover how data collaboration helps connect the full customer picture, how personalization should support (not dilute) brand, and why treating customer data with care is key to building relationships that actually last.
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Turning TV Into a Performance Channel with Investment Grade Data

Welcome back to Modern Marketing and Measurement. Today I’m joined by Laura Grover, SVP and Head of Client Solutions at EDO. We talk about how TV measurement is evolving beyond reach and frequency to real consumer action—like search and site visits—and what that means for marketers navigating today’s mix of linear, streaming, and live sports. Laura also shares why contextual creative matters more than ever, how survey data is out and watching actual behavior data is in, and how to use all of it to give clients “investment grade data.”
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The $70 Billion Question: Why So Much Ad Spend Delivers No ROI

Welcome back to Modern Marketing and Measurement. In this episode, I’m joined by Rick Miller, Partner of Marketing Effectiveness at Big Chalk Analytics. We talk about a tough reality in modern media: billions in ad spend produce little to no measurable return. Rick explains where measurement often goes wrong, why “always-on” MMM isn’t always the answer, and how better data—from local signals to real performance metrics—can help marketers make smarter decisions before budgets are wasted.
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Beyond Last Click: Measuring What Actually Drives Growth

On this episode of Modern Marketing and Measurement, I’m joined by Henry Innis, Co-Founder and CEO of Mutinex. We talk about how CMOs can cut through fragmented data, move beyond last-click thinking, and use faster, clearer measurement to answer tough growth questions with confidence. From protecting brand investment to aligning metrics with the P&L, Henry makes the conversation easy to enjoy by being whip smart with a sharp humor to match.
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Breaking Past Media: Rethinking MMM as a Business Driver Mix

Today on Modern Marketing and Measurement, I’m joined by Karen Kaufman, Global Chief Strategy and Growth Officer at Gain Theory. We talk about why measurement has to go beyond media and into every business driver—from pricing and promotions to economic forces—and how next-gen models, clearer objectives, and more agile planning help teams move from hindsight to true foresight. It’s a practical look at turning insights into decisions the whole C-suite can act on.
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Breaking the Silos: Building a Smarter, More Integrated Media Engine

Welcome back to Modern Marketing and Measurement. Today I’m joined by Sean Corcoran, President of MissionOne Media, a new arm of BarkleyOKRP. We talk about what happens when creative, media, and analytics stop operating in silos, and the benefits of an agency fully engaging & collaborating with your brand's team. From smarter budget allocation to AI-powered insights and better collaboration, it’s a practical look at how integration leads to stronger results.
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Speed to Spend: Smarter Curation for Modern Media Teams

On this episode of Modern Marketing and Measurement, I sit down with James Leaver of Multilocal Media to talk about why curation has gone from buzzword to business driver. We dig into supply-side complexity, the role of AI and humans, and how better data and faster execution help brands move from fragmented buying to measurable outcomes.
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From Vanity Metrics to Real Impact: Measuring Creator Marketing at Scale

On this episode of Modern Marketing and Measurement, I’m joined by Tim Sovay from CreatorIQ. We dig into how brands are moving beyond likes and followers to measure what actually matters in creator marketing — from brand suitability and safety to full-funnel performance, commerce, and long-term ROI.
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CTV Grows Up: How Roku Is Powering the Full-Funnel Future of TV

Today on Modern Marketing and Measurement, I’m joined by Sarah Harms from Roku to talk about how streaming TV has evolved from a reach extension into a true full-funnel marketing engine. We dig into Roku’s consumer-first approach, the shift toward precision and performance in CTV, how culture and commerce are converging on the big screen, and what marketers need to rethink now—from planning frameworks to measurement—as streaming becomes the new foundation of television.
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Human Truth in the Age of AI: Inside GWI’s Approach to Modern Marketing

On this episode of Modern Marketing and Measurement, I’m joined by Misha Williams, COO of GWI. We explore how marketers are using real, human-sourced data to power smarter decisions, from audience discovery to activation. Misha shares how GWI is helping teams move faster with AI—without losing trust, transparency, or the human truth behind the data.
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